I was definitely nervous about this change but I am thrilled to announce the new stuff is totally kick butt.
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New GW Resin/Plastic Kits are here
Started by Christina, May 26 2011 10:38 AM
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Posted 26 May 2011 - 11:05 AM
Clifford, on 26 May 2011 - 10:38 AM, said:
I was definitely nervous about this change but I am thrilled to announce the new stuff is totally kick butt.
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Posted 27 May 2011 - 08:12 AM
Picked up the Dark Eldar Incubi box yesterday. I am not impressed. There will be a good amount of additional cleaning on the models. While the bodies appear to be alright, the weapon sprue is horrible. There is a thin sheet of resin between most the sprue and is indicative of a poor press and that resin seeped into the crack between the two molds. I ran into this problem myself when casting two part molds and didn't press the two molds together with enough force. On top of that, there are "chunks" in the casting, usually a sign of a bit of mold having been tore off in a previous mold. I would expect to see this from a small garage operation, not from a top miniature manufacturer.
Lastly, the resin feels fragile. Real fragile. To the point that I'm worried about damaging thin parts when cleaning off flash and mold lines.
Lastly, the resin feels fragile. Real fragile. To the point that I'm worried about damaging thin parts when cleaning off flash and mold lines.
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Posted 28 May 2011 - 11:38 AM
You know quality control is absolute crap when even the unpainted models being put up on GW's site show major defects.
The image was still there half an hour ago, but has since been removed.
All the reviewers have had flaws of one type or another. Bent part and excessive flash are the minor ones. Breakages and unrepairable mistcasts the worst. One reviewer got a Captain Stern and the face was distorted. This means that GW is pulling the models from the molds before the full cure time.
From this and other reviews, I believe GW is doing two things very wrong:
1. Models are not allowed to fully cure. The resins I work with recommend 15 - 30 minute cure time. You can take the model out at 15, but you do get warpage.
2. Molds are being used too much. With maximum mold release prep, you can get 10 - 20 pulls with most molds. After that you loss too much detail from bits of mold being pulled out. In a podcast interview with the owner of Spartan Games, he said they replace their silicone molds daily. GW may be trying to stretch the life of their molds beyond what would be acceptable and pulling molds out after the minimum cure time.
The image was still there half an hour ago, but has since been removed.
All the reviewers have had flaws of one type or another. Bent part and excessive flash are the minor ones. Breakages and unrepairable mistcasts the worst. One reviewer got a Captain Stern and the face was distorted. This means that GW is pulling the models from the molds before the full cure time.
From this and other reviews, I believe GW is doing two things very wrong:
1. Models are not allowed to fully cure. The resins I work with recommend 15 - 30 minute cure time. You can take the model out at 15, but you do get warpage.
2. Molds are being used too much. With maximum mold release prep, you can get 10 - 20 pulls with most molds. After that you loss too much detail from bits of mold being pulled out. In a podcast interview with the owner of Spartan Games, he said they replace their silicone molds daily. GW may be trying to stretch the life of their molds beyond what would be acceptable and pulling molds out after the minimum cure time.
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Posted 28 May 2011 - 12:23 PM
So Cliff, any plan to stock mantic games? Their resins I have seen have been very good so far.
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The Black Tyrant, on 28 May 2011 - 11:38 AM, said:
You know quality control is absolute crap when even the unpainted models being put up on GW's site show major defects.
The image was still there half an hour ago, but has since been removed.
All the reviewers have had flaws of one type or another. Bent part and excessive flash are the minor ones. Breakages and unrepairable mistcasts the worst. One reviewer got a Captain Stern and the face was distorted. This means that GW is pulling the models from the molds before the full cure time.
From this and other reviews, I believe GW is doing two things very wrong:
1. Models are not allowed to fully cure. The resins I work with recommend 15 - 30 minute cure time. You can take the model out at 15, but you do get warpage.
2. Molds are being used too much. With maximum mold release prep, you can get 10 - 20 pulls with most molds. After that you loss too much detail from bits of mold being pulled out. In a podcast interview with the owner of Spartan Games, he said they replace their silicone molds daily. GW may be trying to stretch the life of their molds beyond what would be acceptable and pulling molds out after the minimum cure time.
The image was still there half an hour ago, but has since been removed.
All the reviewers have had flaws of one type or another. Bent part and excessive flash are the minor ones. Breakages and unrepairable mistcasts the worst. One reviewer got a Captain Stern and the face was distorted. This means that GW is pulling the models from the molds before the full cure time.
From this and other reviews, I believe GW is doing two things very wrong:
1. Models are not allowed to fully cure. The resins I work with recommend 15 - 30 minute cure time. You can take the model out at 15, but you do get warpage.
2. Molds are being used too much. With maximum mold release prep, you can get 10 - 20 pulls with most molds. After that you loss too much detail from bits of mold being pulled out. In a podcast interview with the owner of Spartan Games, he said they replace their silicone molds daily. GW may be trying to stretch the life of their molds beyond what would be acceptable and pulling molds out after the minimum cure time.
At least the problems you bring up are things that they can fix with work effort and casting staff. There are many times when I was at Privateer that we had whole batches of models that had to get re-done because they were not allowed to cure..the funny thing is those were the models that were being cast across the pond at Cerebus. I think those UK guys just dont have alot of patience.
If they just change up how they are casting things, which obviously they know there is a problem, then that will help out alot. I think the models look great, and I can agree that the resin is a little fragile. But when is resin not fragile. They just switched over, I would have been amazed if they didnt have any problems at all with the change over.
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